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Don Bryant
12-08-2008, 10:12 AM
Not everyone is happy about the New World Order of Digital Photography.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnwf2RShNV0

Don Bryant

Walt Calahan
12-08-2008, 12:34 PM
Childish.

An insult to the victims of Hitler.

The Nikon D3X is just gear. I don't understand the emotional shock that it is expensive. If you have to ask, you can afford it. In three years the camera will be obsolete.

Don Bryant
12-08-2008, 02:57 PM
Childish.

An insult to the victims of Hitler.


Lighten up Walter, it's a satire.

Don Bryant

jd callow
12-08-2008, 03:01 PM
I think this is very funny and the fact that it belittles Hitler should not bother anyone.

MikeSeb
12-08-2008, 03:40 PM
I was one of those eagerly awaiting what nikon might produce, in the vain hope that I'd come across any digital capture device that looks better than scanned Portra film. I figured, full-frame 24 MP sensor just might come close.

And it may--but not for me, not at such a huge price premium over similar offerings from other makers.

I think Nikon may have hatched a turd with this one, especially in this economy. May be a great camera--probably is--but I don't see the value proposition. Wonder to whom this camera will appeal?

Not dumping on Nikon per se, as I've used their gear for 30 years.

Don Bryant
12-08-2008, 04:18 PM
I was one of those eagerly awaiting what nikon might produce, in the vain hope that I'd come across any digital capture device that looks better than scanned Portra film. I figured, full-frame 24 MP sensor just might come close.

And it may--but not for me, not at such a huge price premium over similar offerings from other makers.

I think Nikon may have hatched a turd with this one, especially in this economy. May be a great camera--probably is--but I don't see the value proposition. Wonder to whom this camera will appeal?

Not dumping on Nikon per se, as I've used their gear for 30 years.

Well my guess is that sports photographers and news journalists for major news and sports outlets are perhaps the most likely to jump.

From watching sports and news on TV lately it looks like most of the these shooters are packing Nikons instead of Canons these days.

The Sony A900 may attract wedding photographers at the price the camera is offered at, but Sony needs to beef up it's lens selection. I don't think relying on legacy Minolta glass is a feasible idea for a number of reasons.

Don Bryant

MikeSeb
12-08-2008, 04:25 PM
Well my guess is that sports photographers and news journalists for major news and sports outlets are perhaps the most likely to jump.

Why would they? For the slower frame rate and (probably) worse high-ISO-noise performance compared to the D3 they're already happily shooting? Those guys don't need 24 MP, not when it'll cost them twice as much.

jd callow
12-08-2008, 04:59 PM
The biggest buyers may be corperations that will write off the expenditure (or lease payment) and stock their camera pool with it. larger businesses and instituitions with inhouse PR and or a need for a photo dept as well as news agencies, and photo studios with an investment in Nikon lenses will buy this thing.

Colin Graham
12-08-2008, 05:51 PM
That was hilarious, thanks for the link.

RAM
12-09-2008, 10:23 AM
I think this is very funny and the fact that it belittles Hitler should not bother anyone.

I also do not believe for one New York second .... that ANY of the manufacturers of the camera systems mentioned - will be impressed !

I wonder if the concerned manufacturers corporate lawyers will have this video removed from public display rather shortly ?

What next ? A promotional video on how convenient digital systems are for : pedophiles or terrorist executions ?

Anything that is intended to be humorous and is based on the regime that is solely responsible for the murders of six million civilians is not funny - Satire and sick are sometimes divided by a very close thin line ?

:eek: In my most humble opinion

Don Bryant
12-09-2008, 12:32 PM
Anything that is intended to be humorous and is based on the regime that is solely responsible for the murders of six million civilians is not funny - Satire and sick are sometimes divided by a very close thin line ?



That is the nature of dark humor or a black comedy.

If Mel Brooks (a Jew) can parody and create satire of Adolph why can't someone else?

Don Bryant

jd callow
12-09-2008, 01:32 PM
It is a gosh darn spoof. Its humour is found by juxtaposing a serious subject from a different time with an irrelevant contemporaneous subject in an irreverent manner. I agree with Don, Mel Brooks did almost the same thing with 'Springtime for Hitler.'

The thing is funny, smart and relevant. There is nothing in the clip that makes light of the victims of Hitler's reign.

Don Bryant
12-09-2008, 01:40 PM
Mel Brooks did almost the same thing with 'Springtime for Hitler.'



He also did a remake of "To Be or Not To Be" and a promotional video for the same movie called "The Hitler Rap". The video was only aired a few times before being removed from MTV and the like due to protests from the PC police. Luckily I managed to record the video which I still have. It is probably the funniest video I've ever seen; with a Brooks stand in doing Hitler break dancing. To this day I can still remember all of the lyrics since I watched it so many times with my wife and my friends.

Don

RAM
12-09-2008, 01:45 PM
It is a gosh darn spoof. Its humour is found by juxtaposing a serious subject from a different time with an irrelevant contemporaneous subject in an irreverent manner. I agree with Don, Mel Brooks did almost the same thing with 'Springtime for Hitler.'

The thing is funny, smart and relevant. There is nothing in the clip that makes light of the victims of Hitler's reign.

Lets hope that Sony & Nikon see it that way too ;)

jd callow
12-09-2008, 03:09 PM
I think Nikon won't be happy, but sony probably won't mind the plug. FWIW I'd love a 20-24 megapixel full frame dslr in a 35mm body. Especially one that takes Nikon lenses. I figure that 20-24mp is about all you'll get out of the lenses and having a body that can be hand held is about as good as it gets in digital capture.

Now that the 20-24mp threshold has been met it is only a matter of time before I can afford one.

bluedog
12-09-2008, 07:41 PM
Thanks for the laugh. I acquired a 1954 Voigtlander Vito B a couple of weeks ago and it is a lot of fun to use. I wonder whether any of the digital gear will have a similar life span.

sanking
12-10-2008, 04:54 PM
I must admit to being shocked by the comments of persons who found this video offensive. To be it was hilarious in the way it mocked Hitler and his entourage and at the same time offered a wonderful spoof of the absurdity of the pixel chasers.

RAM
12-11-2008, 01:03 PM
I must admit to being shocked by the comments of persons who found this video offensive. To be it was hilarious in the way it mocked Hitler and his entourage and at the same time offered a wonderful spoof of the absurdity of the pixel chasers.

the Video is however - a Copyright infringement !
The creator of this spoof has taken someones work in part without the studios written consent and altered it and re-published it ... That is the most offensive thing !

P.s ... I think that all of you who dont shoot on manual focus Carl Zeiss and / or Leica optics are complete scum and should be taken outside lined up against the wall and er well ... :p

Kind Regards ;)

Sidney
12-11-2008, 06:04 PM
I'm living in France and clicking on that (OP's) link tells me that I'm not allowed to view this movie in my country...
Strange.

Maybe someone could PM me a downloaded copy...

Don Bryant
12-11-2008, 06:36 PM
I'm living in France and clicking on that (OP's) link tells me that I'm not allowed to view this movie in my country...
Strange.

Maybe someone could PM me a downloaded copy...
I don't know how to capture a video by YouTube. I'll try to send you another link.

Don Bryant