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Carl Radford
01-31-2008, 11:49 AM
Would anyone be interested in another print exchange? Sign up date By the end of March and an exchange date by the end of April?
keithwms
01-31-2008, 12:06 PM
Sure. But could you narrow the parameters a bit?
Carl Radford
01-31-2008, 12:13 PM
Sure. But could you narrow the parameters a bit?
I was thinking of anything that fit into the hybrid remit - digital print or alt print using digital negs?
jd callow
01-31-2008, 03:57 PM
I've made the thread sticky...
keithwms
01-31-2008, 04:13 PM
So... ~8x10" print, any hybrid process? Five people per group?
How 'bout it?
Carl Radford
01-31-2008, 04:27 PM
So... ~8x10" print, any hybrid process? Five people per group?
How 'bout it?
Not sure about restricting size - that should be down to individuals as wll as if they are matted or not!?
Katharine Thayer
01-31-2008, 04:51 PM
So, people could send out alternative process prints and get inkjet prints in return, and everyone's okay with that?
tom_micklin
01-31-2008, 04:54 PM
So, people could send out alternative process prints and get inkjet prints in return, and everyone's okay with that?
We did this a while back and split the exchanges into separate groups for inkjet and alt.
I think the groups were then split into groups of four people.
Can't remember the details, but I'm sure the thread is archived here.
I'd like to be part of an alt exchange.
Tom
Don Bryant
01-31-2008, 05:13 PM
We did this a while back and split the exchanges into separate groups for inkjet and alt.
I think the groups were then split into groups of four people.
Can't remember the details, but I'm sure the thread is archived here.
I'd like to be part of an alt exchange.
Tom
In previous Hybrid Exchanges there was 1 hybrid-digital negative alt-process exchange with 4 people per group and 2 inkjet print only exchanges with roughly 10 to 12 people per group. The print types were never mixed. Personally I like both but would not care to mix the two. IOW, iwouldn't want to send out hand made prints with the expectation of receiving an inkjet print but receiving an inkjet print for an inkjet printis fine. And just to clarify, machine made prints not made on ones inkjet printer or an inkjet printer IS NOT acceptible in my view.
In the past participants in the inkjet exchange have submited prints originally captured on film and printed with an inkjet printer, though some participants also threw in an extra inkjet print where the original exposure was made with a digital camera.
And just to dot the i in Hybrid and guild the lily, Denise Ross in the last inkjet exchange submitted a beautiful inkjet print that originated as a in camera exposure, printed on hand coated gelatin silver paper, then handcolored, which was subsequently scanned and finally printed as an inkjet print. That's about as hybrid as it can get I think.
I think folks on the LF forum have an exhange going that allows for prints of any sort as long as a LF camera is used.
Don Bryant
P.S. Carl I've not forgotten the print(s) that I owe you and I'm close to sending those out. PM me if you have questions.
Carl Radford
02-02-2008, 05:00 AM
I feel we should leave the options open of mixing the media type and size etc unless there is a consensus that they should be split - open to input!
I would agree that whatever the work used in the exchange should be that of the person doing the exchange. All of us are of differing standards and sometimes it is good to raise your bar a little with the effort of making images for other people and getting constructive feedback.
The definition of what should be a hybrid print is for John et al to define and outside of the scope of this exchange but we could decided what is acceptable within this exchange.
I also hear and have read peoples concerns re being involved and not getting prints back. The only way around this is for all the prints to be sent to one person and the prints are collated and returned that way. It puts a lot of work onto one person but I would do it and arrange in more detail later how it would happen in precise terms. Another option is to have slightly bigger groups and one person collate for that group. This could work if this exchange ends out splitting into inkjet and alternative prints as well.
Just my thoughts - open to others?
All the best, Carl
keithwms
02-02-2008, 05:28 PM
You know, I did an exchange on apug and only one person in the group had anything at all to say about the prints :( that frankly made me not care at all about the next apug exchange that I signed up for.
For me the issue of what I get, be it Pt/Pd or inkjet, is irrelevant; I want to see output and discuss it in a frank and open way.
Count me in for whatever.
Carl Radford
02-03-2008, 05:32 AM
Details to be finalised re mixing alt and inkjet prints depending on consensus but you can specify inkjet or alt process only. It maybe that all prints all sent to a central location and repackaged and sent back out to circumvent the problem of those not honoring their commitment to exchange prints! Please indicate (E)xpert, (I)ntermediate or (B)eginner as this will help to get an even spread throughout the groups.
So far we have:
Carl Radford - Carl Radford - (I)
Keith Williams - keithwms - (?)
i was thinking about doing this again, but now it is getting too controlling, which doesn't fit my personality.
One of the reasons i entered the last exchange was to get a sense of what inkjet prints looked like from a variety of sources since this is a new process for me. I was not unhappy with the work i received and i hope people didn't feel short changed from my project.
At no time was any mention of critque mentioned and as far as i know none was given , except to repsond to the group pthat they enjoyed receiving a specific piece of work.
keithwms
02-03-2008, 09:50 AM
Ann, I don't think you need to think of it as too controlling. If you're open to inkjet prints then why don't we just openly stipulate that at the outset and if somebody is going to submit one then they can go to you rather than someone else who (hypothetically) doesn't want to see them.
I also don't mind seeing what's the "latest" people can do with inkjet.
People who are open to IJ could have an asterisk or something and be sorted accordingly. This isn't rocket science, we're a small group and it'll be easy to work out. You can asterisk me, I don't mind.
Oh, Carl, mark me "B." I am a perpetual beginner- as soon as I get proficient at something, I lose interest and move onto something else, so whatever people get from me will be a nutty first experiment of some sort.
Carl Radford
02-03-2008, 03:53 PM
Details to be finalised re mixing alt and inkjet prints depending on consensus but you can specify inkjet or alt process only. It maybe that all prints all sent to a central location and repackaged and sent back out to circumvent the problem of those not honoring their commitment to exchange prints! Please indicate (E)xpert, (I)ntermediate or (B)eginner as this will help to get an even spread throughout the groups.
So far we have:
Carl Radford - Carl Radford - (I)
Keith Williams - keithwms - (B)
Carl Radford
02-08-2008, 03:22 PM
Ann - I am not sure where I have made this controlling or for the specific requirement to provide feedback. If an individual wants feedback it can be asked for and can be informative but it is not a requirement!
i was thinking about doing this again, but now it is getting too controlling, which doesn't fit my personality.
One of the reasons i entered the last exchange was to get a sense of what inkjet prints looked like from a variety of sources since this is a new process for me. I was not unhappy with the work i received and i hope people didn't feel short changed from my project.
At no time was any mention of critque mentioned and as far as i know none was given , except to repsond to the group pthat they enjoyed receiving a specific piece of work.
It is my inpertation. now we have to be a beginner, etc. catagories ,sending everything to one person, etc.
it just doesn't fit me, which is not meant to be an indictment against the way you wish this exchange to go.
the owner of the exchange has the right to set their guidlines.
tom_micklin
02-08-2008, 04:59 PM
Carl,
The only requirement I'd personally like to see is that no one receives a print unless they contribute one.
Feedback should not be required. Nice, but not required.
Looks like you've got a plan that would take care that, so I'm in.
I'd prefer to see alt hybrid prints, but that's not absolutely necessary.
I am an (I).
The only I do at an Expert level is roll my fat butt out of bed every morning, and who knows how long I can keep that going :)
Thanks for doing this,
Regards,
Tom
jd callow
02-09-2008, 12:35 AM
Don't let me know when we're doing a 'roll your fat but outta bed exchange'
Carl Radford
02-09-2008, 06:19 AM
Details to be finalised re mixing alt and inkjet prints depending on consensus but you can specify inkjet or alt process only. It maybe that all prints all sent to a central location and repackaged and sent back out to circumvent the problem of those not honoring their commitment to exchange prints! Please indicate (E)xpert, (I)ntermediate or (B)eginner as this will help to get an even spread throughout the groups.
So far we have:
Carl Radford - Carl Radford - (I)
Keith Williams - keithwms - (B)
Tom Micklin - tom_micklin - (I)