Brad hinkle's (sp) method review?

[mark]

Anyone use this yet and can you tell me how it compares to PDN.

[Ray Heath]

Anyone use this yet and can you tell me how it compares to PDN.

please elaborate

[mark]

I have Adobe and am not all that interested in buying a new piece of software. If this system is on par then I will get the book and forgo PDN. If it is not up to snuff then I will go the PDN way.

So, if anyone has tested what he has put out and can give a review of it I would appreciate it.

Heck, if he is hanging around i would like to hear from him as well.

[Don Bryant]

I have Adobe and am not all that interested in buying a new piece of software. If this system is on par then I will get the book and forgo PDN. If it is not up to snuff then I will go the PDN way.

So, if anyone has tested what he has put out and can give a review of it I would appreciate it.

Heck, if he is hanging around i would like to hear from him as well.

What printer are you planning on using to make digital inkjet negatives?

Don Bryant

[mark]

I'll be using my dad's 2200. I'll hand over the grand kids as rental payment. Why?

[Don Bryant]

I'll be using my dad's 2200. I'll hand over the grand kids as rental payment. Why?

If you are planing to use the Reeder/Hinkel method you will need to purchase a copy of Quad Tone RIP. QTR supports the 2200.

Don Bryant

[BruceRC]

If you are planing to use the Reeder/Hinkel method you will need to purchase a copy of Quad Tone RIP. QTR supports the 2200.

Don Bryant

Don

What differences have you seen betwen the Reeder/Hinkle and Mark Nelson's PDN digital negative approaches

Bruce

[Don Bryant]

Don

What differences have you seen betwen the Reeder/Hinkle and Mark Nelson's PDN digital negative approaches

Bruce

Since I haven't completed my testing using the Reeder Hinkel method I can't really comment about that. However, I've read the book and it is my impression that the weak link with their method is the process curve generation that they use which may not be as accurate as Mark Nelson's PDN method.

Personally I would try both and decide which best works for you.

As soon as I can carve out some time for testing and when the weather cooperates with warmenr temperatures and higher relative humidity I'll run some tests. Even with my humidifier running 24/7 the RH in my darkroom has been too low to make alt. prints.

Don

[Michael P. Rosenberg]

Don et al.,

I have not used the PDN method, but have used Ron Reeder/Brad Hinkle's method. It is exceedingly simple, and took me 2-3 days to work out the method for my 2400. I was generating negatives for silver gelatin prints on Forte (sigh). The curve generation is indeed accurate and simple to generate. As Ron explained in previous threads the ability to use QTR (costs $50 - cheap) to utilize 7 inks (LLK not used) is suppose to give smoother tonalities. Frankly, it is very simple. The book does a very good job describing the process. Also Ron and Brad will send you Profile curves to tweak.

If you are using a PC the QTR gui has some nice features for curve tweaking that is not so obvious on Mac. For one, it shows you the curve after you save it and the previous version.

If you have a transmission densitometer you can generate a curve correction that way without going into the darkroom.

I would heartily recommend trying it -

One caveat, for silver gelatin prints there are printer artifacts that make the 2400 unsuitable. I am considering the 3800.

Mike

[Don Bryant]

Don et al.,

I have not used the PDN method, but have used Ron Reeder/Brad Hinkle's method. It is exceedingly simple, and took me 2-3 days to work out the method for my 2400. I was generating negatives for silver gelatin prints on Forte (sigh). The curve generation is indeed accurate and simple to generate. As Ron explained in previous threads the ability to use QTR (costs $50 - cheap) to utilize 7 inks (LLK not used) is suppose to give smoother tonalities. Frankly, it is very simple. The book does a very good job describing the process. Also Ron and Brad will send you Profile curves to tweak.

I don't think it has been posted here but the reason that Mark Nelson doesn't reccomend using black ink is not because of ink grain but because pure black ink negatives require a more extreme adjustment curve.

That being said, using QTR to determine the black ink limit may (probably does) negate that concern. QTR's ability to generate a linearized curve is indeed it's strong point. I look forward to trying it out.

If you are using a PC the QTR gui has some nice features for curve tweaking that is not so obvious on Mac. For one, it shows you the curve after you save it and the previous version.

Very handy.

If you have a transmission densitometer you can generate a curve correction that way without going into the darkroom.

How would you do that? I don't follow you there.

One caveat, for silver gelatin prints there are printer artifacts that make the 2400 unsuitable. I am considering the 3800.

Mike

Even though I'm very impressed with the 3800 I'm hoping the 1400 will be even better for printing silver gelatin.

Don