Platinum on pigment prints

[Christian Olivet]

I was for a long time wanting to make platinum on pigment or pigment on platinum prints. I am aware of Dan Burkholder's work and recently doing a google search I found Jim Collum's work which is displayed here at Hybridphoto.com. Seeing his work gives me a confirmation that this is something I really want to try. I believe in blending the best of analog with the best of digital so here goes the first question. What printer should I use? the 2200 or 2400. The 2400 should print sharper and smoother but don't know how the inks may affect the paper for the next coat of platinum.
Will it have adherence problems or PH incompatibility poblems?


I got much more to learn than what printer to use but I need to replace my defunct printer so that's a start.


Thanks in advance,

Christian

[BillSchwab]

What printer should I use? the 2200 or 2400.

I use the 2200 for this. I don't think you will see too much difference in quality between the two for this purpose.

B.

[Don Bryant]

I was for a long time wanting to make platinum on pigment or pigment on platinum prints. I am aware of Dan Burkholder's work and recently doing a google search I found Jim Collum's work which is displayed here at Hybridphoto.com. Seeing his work gives me a confirmation that this is something I really want to try. I believe in blending the best of analog with the best of digital so here goes the first question. What printer should I use? the 2200 or 2400. The 2400 should print sharper and smoother but don't know how the inks may affect the paper for the next coat of platinum.
Will it have adherence problems or PH incompatibility poblems?


I got much more to learn than what printer to use but I need to replace my defunct printer so that's a start.


Thanks in advance,

Christian

If you don't have a 2200 already you will have to go with the 2400 since Epson superseded <sp?> the 2200 with the 2400. But as Bill said either should work fine.

I keep hoping that Jim Collum might do an article sharing his technical acumen for this technique.

Don Bryant

[BillSchwab]

If you don't have a 2200 already you will have to go with the 2400..

I haven't looked myself, but I have heard there are "refurbished" 2200s out there somewhere. It might be worth a look. I've been looking at the 2400 though and it looks pretty nice.

B

[Don Bryant]

I haven't looked myself, but I have heard there are "refurbished" 2200s out there somewhere. It might be worth a look. I've been looking at the 2400 though and it looks pretty nice.

B

Personally I don't reccommend refurbs as they come without a return warranty or any warranty at all (if I'm remembering correctly - at least that is what the Epson weasel words state for refurbed equipment.) Though having said that, Arditos Business Systems ( http://www.arditos.com/refurbished.nxg ) has been reccomended by John Cone and company as a first class shop to have printers rebuild or refurbed. Currently though I see no 2200s there but one could contact them anyway.

But if it were my money I would go with the 2400 new or save a bit more and get a 3800 which will save you a lot of money on ink in the long run. I know one APUG member here locally that has one on order and is expecting delivery in December. So you might have to wait if you go that route.

Best of luck however it goes,

Don

P.S. Just for the record I'm using a 2200 and will use it until it dies or until I have the spare nickels for a 17 inch printer like the 3800.

[Don Bryant]

[QUOTE=Don Bryant;394] Arditos Business Systems ( http://www.arditos.com/refurbished.nxg ) has been reccomended by John Cone and company as a first class shop to have printers rebuild or refurbed. Currently though I see no 2200s there but one could contact them anyway.

QUOTE]

Looking more carefully on the Ardito site they show 2200s for $699. But isn't that about what a 2400 would cost?

Don Bryant

[Christian Olivet]

Thanks for the answers. The 3800 is too much for me right now. Will probably go with the 2400.

[BillSchwab]

Looking more carefully on the Ardito site they show 2200s for $699. But isn't that about what a 2400 would cost?

Don, My local shops have the 2400 for 849.00 but told me they could go a little less. My 2200 was 699.00 new several years back. If they're getting that for a refurb, they must be still in demand.

Bill

[Don Bryant]

Don, My local shops have the 2400 for 849.00 but told me they could go a little less. My 2200 was 699.00 new several years back. If they're getting that for a refurb, they must be still in demand.

Bill

That's the new price, according to the Ardito web site, which I'm assuming they still have in stock.

Personally if I had to choose the 2400 or 2200 *JUST* for making digital negs, I would probably purchase the 2200 since the ink is less expensive and doesn't consume ink as fast as the 2400.

Don

[jimcollum]

hi,

sorry i didn't reply earlier. .just got back from a trip to the Salton Sea.

I use the Epson 7600 for mine. I recently picked up a 2400, and though i haven't made negatives on it yet (waiting for PDN 2 to arrive).. i have printed the color layer and coated that (with a negative from the 7600). color's stay on the paper just fine. I suspect the 2400 might produce a better negative as well.. Kevin from Bostick & Sullivan uses a 9800, and says the results are noticably better than the previous 76/9600 printers. He uses just the black inks, and says they do an excellent job. I printed a b/w negative with the 7600, and found some midtone 'noise'.. wasn't as smooth as i'd like. with the PDN system, my negative turns out to be green, and produces very smooth tones throughout.

Thanks Don, for the kind words. I've thought of putting together an article... maybe posting it here on Hybrid. I tend to be a visually oriented person, so words often come with difficulty. But i'll see what i can do

jim