Bronzing for Various Glossy / Luster Papers R800 / R1800

[terryg]

I had 7 glossy / luster papers and wanted to see the bronzing effect on each. I printed out the Quadtone Rip Ink Separation Test Page on each which shows 21 steps of increasing ink densities.

I’ve let the papers dry for 3 days and visually viewed at an angle under an Ott-Lite which is supposed to be 5000-5500 degree Kelvin.

While somewhat subjective there are some clear differences with the Epson Luster being the worst re bronzing. I now see why so many posts here regarding the amount of Gloss and or spray required to reduce the bronzing on the PK ink for glossy/luster papers on the R800 / R1800 printers and especially the Epson Luster. All were printed 2880, uni-directional, and adaptive-hybird on my R1800.

I looked at each printed paper and the % where I thought the PK ink was not “bronzing.” was noted.

Imation Photo Jet – None (maybe 5)
Ilford Classic Pearl (Black Box) – 20/25
Ilford Smooth Pearl (Red Box) – 25/30
Harman Gloss FB AL – 25/30
Ilford Gold Fiber Silk – 35/40
Innova Fibra Print – 40/45
Epson Ultra Premium Luster – 45/50 (when observed right after printing it was 60/65)

Does anyone have any data on other papers? I’d be interested in the Harman Crystaljet Luster RC paper.

Comments appreciated.

Terry

[terryg]

I've added an 8th paper to my list.

Inkjetart Micro Ceramic Luster (250gsm, 10.4mil) 30/35 no bronzing on the R800 / R1800 std Epson Inks

I understand this paper is no longer available.

Any comments on this data?

Thanks, Terry

[Herb Cunningham]

I print on Epson luster with a 3800 epson, different inks, I think. I don't see bronzing on my b/w prints, and I don't do much color. Have you looked at inkpress papers? A local shop here is a big fan of Inkpress luster.

[pschwart]

I had 7 glossy / luster papers and wanted to see the bronzing effect on each. I printed out the Quadtone Rip Ink Separation Test Page on each which shows 21 steps of increasing ink densities.

I’ve let the papers dry for 3 days and visually viewed at an angle under an Ott-Lite which is supposed to be 5000-5500 degree Kelvin.

While somewhat subjective there are some clear differences with the Epson Luster being the worst re bronzing. I now see why so many posts here regarding the amount of Gloss and or spray required to reduce the bronzing on the PK ink for glossy/luster papers on the R800 / R1800 printers and especially the Epson Luster. All were printed 2880, uni-directional, and adaptive-hybird on my R1800.

I looked at each printed paper and the % where I thought the PK ink was not “bronzing.” was noted.

Imation Photo Jet – None (maybe 5)
Ilford Classic Pearl (Black Box) – 20/25
Ilford Smooth Pearl (Red Box) – 25/30
Harman Gloss FB AL – 25/30
Ilford Gold Fiber Silk – 35/40
Innova Fibra Print – 40/45
Epson Ultra Premium Luster – 45/50 (when observed right after printing it was 60/65)

Does anyone have any data on other papers? I’d be interested in the Harman Crystaljet Luster RC paper.

Comments appreciated.

Terry

Using the QTR ink test is interesting, but its' not quite real world in that images are not likely to have sizable areas of a single ink and scattered droplets may not show bronzing. I don't often print on luster or glossy papers, but I don't recall any bronzing on Harman Crystaljet Luster RC, Museo Silver Rag, or Harman Gloss FB AL when I have used these in my R1800.
I generally don't use the gloss optimizer when I print.