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Developed my first B&W film
Hey all!
Just today i started to develop my B&W film at home, i did 3 rolls, too bad that 1 of them came out nothing or bad, and the other 2 came out fine [not sure until i scan or print], I am so happy i did it at home even i did develop before at workshop i attended, but nothing like when i do it alone myself without someone else with me around.
Honestly for first roll i developed [which was also my first ever B&W film i shoot] i did many mistakes, so even it went bad i will not feel bad as i expect i will ruin it or it is ruined already before i develop., also it was a nightmare to load the roll into the reel, i spent about 1 hour and so to load it for the first roll[which is the bad one], and then took something between 5-15 minutes for the others, the first roll i tried first with Paterson reel, gave up and then tried Jobo one, gave up again and last i tried the stainless steel one and it worked but seems i corrupted so far, also because i was so mad and disappointed i put a water in Jobo tank and then put it in the changing bag [while the film is closed on Paterson tank without reel, and took out the film in the changing back to wash the roll, as when i tried to load it was stuck and not going through so i thought it was like adhesive or not dry or so], i learnt but seeing the other two coming out nicely i forgot all my mistakes, even those two came out were the shots i was looking for, I have one roll remain but i don't know if the fixer is enough.
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 Originally Posted by TareqPhoto  Hey all!
Just today i started to develop my B&W film at home, i did 3 rolls, too bad that 1 of them came out nothing or bad, and the other 2 came out fine [not sure until i scan or print], I am so happy i did it at home even i did develop before at workshop i attended, but nothing like when i do it alone myself without someone else with me around.
Honestly for first roll i developed [which was also my first ever B&W film i shoot] i did many mistakes, so even it went bad i will not feel bad as i expect i will ruin it or it is ruined already before i develop., also it was a nightmare to load the roll into the reel, i spent about 1 hour and so to load it for the first roll[which is the bad one], and then took something between 5-15 minutes for the others, the first roll i tried first with Paterson reel, gave up and then tried Jobo one, gave up again and last i tried the stainless steel one and it worked but seems i corrupted so far, also because i was so mad and disappointed i put a water in Jobo tank and then put it in the changing bag [while the film is closed on Paterson tank without reel, and took out the film in the changing back to wash the roll, as when i tried to load it was stuck and not going through so i thought it was like adhesive or not dry or so], i learnt but seeing the other two coming out nicely i forgot all my mistakes, even those two came out were the shots i was looking for, I have one roll remain but i don't know if the fixer is enough. - what's with the yellow images?
- sacrifice a roll of film and practice loading it onto a reel first in daylight, then in a changing bag until you get the hang of it. I also find stainless steel reels far easier, but if they get bent out of alignment even the slightest bit they can be very difficult to load. Reels need to be *dry* when loading; this is especially true for the plastic reels.
- sure these are just tests, but since you are scanning, why not keep the vertical elements plumb? 
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Originally Posted by pschwart - what's with the yellow images? What do you mean here?
- sacrifice a roll of film and practice loading it onto a reel first in daylight, then in a changing bag until you get the hang of it. I also find stainless steel reels far easier, but if they get bent out of alignment even the slightest bit they can be very difficult to load. Reels need to be *dry* when loading; this is especially true for the plastic reels. Yes, but i was practicing before with a roll and still couldn't do it easily, i do it in daylight opening eyes in less than 1 minutes or say 1 minute, but when i use changing bag or darkroom i spend long time to do it, how many times i should practice then? i feel it will never help if i keep practice, so whatever time it takes i will keep doing it.
- sure these are just tests, but since you are scanning, why not keep the vertical elements plumb? Again, what do you mean here? I have a big problem with WA lens on the camera and i am not good in correcting lines and vertical/horizontal elements. I am still learning!
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Originally Posted by TareqPhoto I am still learning! Sorry, I'm not meaning to be overly critical. Looking at the uploads again, I think the images with the strange color balance must be RGB scans of B&W negatives before they were converted to monochrome in Photoshop. I don't think there is any benefit to scanning B&W images as RGB but you can experiement (note that there *is* a benefit to scanning color images as RGB, then converting to B&W in Photoshop).
Loading reels is like riding a bicycle -- it may take a while, but once you learn you will never forget.
Concerning horizontals and verticals -- check out the rulers, grid lines, and canvas rotation features in Photoshop.
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Originally Posted by pschwart Sorry, I'm not meaning to be overly critical. Looking at the uploads again, I think the images with the strange color balance must be RGB scans of B&W negatives before they were converted to monochrome in Photoshop. I don't think there is any benefit to scanning B&W images as RGB but you can experiement (note that there *is* a benefit to scanning color images as RGB, then converting to B&W in Photoshop).
Loading reels is like riding a bicycle -- it may take a while, but once you learn you will never forget.
Concerning horizontals and verticals -- check out the rulers, grid lines, and canvas rotation features in Photoshop. - I did scan as normal 16bit and converted it to RGB in Photoshop to do that color tone i want.
- I hope you are right, as i don't see myself learnt or improved at all in loading the roll on reel after 50 times of practice in daylight and dark, but honestly it depends on the roll, if it is dry and if the reel is dry, otherwise it will never help even if i practice 1 year everyday.
- I will check that, but i am not good enough in Photoshop, also i hope i can get those lines straight or aligned in the shot out of the camera, not going to waste time always to straighten all the lines on many shots that i will scan, and what if i will print them by darkroom without scanning?
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nice work
good to see more people playing with black and white. Reckon you'll do another?
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Originally Posted by TareqPhoto Hey all!
Just today i started to develop my B&W film at home, i did 3 rolls, too bad that 1 of them came out nothing or bad, and the other 2 came out fine [not sure until i scan or print], I am so happy i did it at home even i did develop before at workshop i attended, but nothing like when i do it alone myself without someone else with me around.
Honestly for first roll i developed [which was also my first ever B&W film i shoot] i did many mistakes, so even it went bad i will not feel bad as i expect i will ruin it or it is ruined already before i develop., also it was a nightmare to load the roll into the reel, i spent about 1 hour and so to load it for the first roll[which is the bad one], and then took something between 5-15 minutes for the others, the first roll i tried first with Paterson reel, gave up and then tried Jobo one, gave up again and last i tried the stainless steel one and it worked but seems i corrupted so far. Hi Tareq,
Congratulations on your first single handedly developed rolls!
The development looks good, nice tonality overall in the negs.
About the reels: Like PSchwart said, reels and film need to be absolutely dry when loading, as the film will otherwise stick to the plastic (and probably also steel, but I don't have experience with them).
Don't give up: what now seems a nightmare while loading, will become second nature in a blink of an eye. I use a Patterson tank with it's plastic reels, and have no trouble at all to load film, doesn't take more than a minute.
You will do similar in a few months time!! 
Marco
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Originally Posted by pellicle nice work
good to see more people playing with black and white. Reckon you'll do another? Thank you!
I have one more roll, not sure what it is about, but i may develop soon, just my fixer is not enough maybe so i will wait until i can get another more fixer or use my another powder fixer.
I am gonna shoot more B&W sooner or later, but i feel i don't have much interesting subjects in my country, and because of work, family and friends i can't start to do fine art work.
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Originally Posted by Marco B Hi Tareq,
Congratulations on your first single handedly developed rolls!
The development looks good, nice tonality overall in the negs.
About the reels: Like PSchwart said, reels and film need to be absolutely dry when loading, as the film will otherwise stick to the plastic (and probably also steel, but I don't have experience with them). Don't give up: what now seems a nightmare while loading, will become second nature in a blink of an eye. I use a Patterson tank with it's plastic reels, and have no trouble at all to load film, doesn't take more than a minute.
You will do similar in a few months time!!
Marco Thank you, Marco!
In fact not just me, even my friends in the workshop said it is so difficult loading 120 then 35/135, even 135 was difficult to load, but as long you all saying it will be easy to do with time and practice so i will wait that time when i can do it in darkness quickly or easily.
I am looking to scan more frames, but i want to develop more, just i want to take rest and read more about developing as i was lucky to get 2 rolls out of 3, and not sure about the 3rd one[first one thought to shoot with and to develop], the problem is that i can't tell if it is the mistake of storing the film or loading or developing.
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